HawaiiCFII Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 This topic came up and I figured this would be a great place to ask the guys that fly this machine. How high can a Blackhawk fly? I have found the record landing of around 17000 ft in Alaska and the service ceiling of 19000 ft. I think it must have been used higher in combat ops since Afganistan is higher than AK. Plus it has a 13000 lb payload. That's a lot of available power. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagMan Posted August 24, 2016 Report Share Posted August 24, 2016 Good question. Maybe Chris will chime in with some of his good seasoned wisdom. I'm sure the good boys over at Sikorsky have a definite answer to your question! On a side note, a good, solid, fun aircraft to be part of a crew in. She was my horse for six years. Certainly not the highest by any means, but I recall crewing a mission one night over there to drop off a full load of grunts on a mountain side. Somewhere around 9,000ft at night and during the spring (I think) and we were getting close to our HOGE limit for the conditions and weight present. One of our sister companies balled one up (a near brand new Mike model) around 12,000ft while looking for a crashed C-12 at night during 09'. They hadn't of been very heavy considering it was mostly just the crew (of 4) and possibly a couple observers in the back under goggles. Basically they got slow over the mountains outside of their HOGE limit and got low rotor. Crew walked away, but due to the altitude the aircraft was at, it made more sense to have Pathfinders come in and blow it up rather than risk hauling it out by a -47 or -53. Poor mike model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharyouTree Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Ragman: was that the NG limiting accident in the Mike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagMan Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Ragman: was that the NG limiting accident in the Mike? Yes it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wopilot Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Here are your "basic" Hawk limits, its fresh in my mind because I just did aircraft comparisons for that class: OEI Service CLG: 3700ftHovering OGE: 4300ftService CLG: 20000ft Just because thats the "limits' doesn't mean it's going to do it either.... what are the engines at? .9 or 1.0? a lot of factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insights_STG Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Wow 9000 feet in a Blackhawk?? That's a lot higher than I would have imagined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insights_STG Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 What is the typical operating range a blackhawk pilot could expect?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 What is the typical operating range that those who fly blackhawks could expect?? Higher than you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insights_STG Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Higher than you.you need to get over that anger bridge. are you enjoying the ski slopes in beautiful Washington?? Make sure you check that out Lindsey... Really for people like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kona4breakfast Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 An H-60L has landed higher than 19k, but conditions were perfect, including the empty weight (or so I heard ). I'd be willing to bet that the stripped down civilian H-60As could top that, being a few thousand pounds lighter. Highest I've landed is just shy of 14k; was very close to HIGE limits up there because we had aux tanks so we'd have enough fuel to get home. The big rocks here are pretty far from the closest gas station, and they also require the use of O2. I've only gotten to use the oxygen system in Colorado at HAATS, where we couldn't get higher than that, and once in AK. Unless we participate in the setup of Denali's camps in April we don't really have a regular opportunity to train above 14k. The Sugar Bears, the active duty Chinook guys, have the High Altitude Rescue Team (HART) mission, where they help set up camp on Denali each year and are on call for rescue. Of course, TEMSCO has their B3 there as well as the primary bird, the the OP already knew that. Better question, how far can a duck fly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCav19D Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 An H-60L has landed higher than 19k, but conditions were perfect, including the empty weight (or so I heard ). I'd be willing to bet that the stripped down civilian H-60As could top that, being a few thousand pounds lighter. Highest I've landed is just shy of 14k; was very close to HIGE limits up there because we had aux tanks so we'd have enough fuel to get home. The big rocks here are pretty far from the closest gas station, and they also require the use of O2. I've only gotten to use the oxygen system in Colorado at HAATS, where we couldn't get higher than that, and once in AK. Unless we participate in the setup of Denali's camps in April we don't really have a regular opportunity to train above 14k. The Sugar Bears, the active duty Chinook guys, have the High Altitude Rescue Team (HART) mission, where they help set up camp on Denali each year and are on call for rescue. Of course, TEMSCO has their B3 there as well as the primary bird, the the OP already knew that. Better question, how far can a duck fly?Heh, I heard this story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insights_STG Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Take notes Lindsay. Thank you for your time, Sir Kona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Notes for what? This place isnt a popularity contest. Let us know when you get your wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insights_STG Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 notes on how to reply to a post in a way that is constructive/positive. I could blow you the f**k up, right now. But I'll take the high road and let you off as being someone who just blindly defends someone who doesent deserve to be defended in this particular manner. 84 hours in flight log book. Thanks playa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creep0321 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 How about you let us know when you are actually even in the Army, or finish basic, or if by some miracle you actually complete WOCS. You are embarrassing yourself again kid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 He's not real, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Uh, blow me the f**k up? Who the f**k do you think you are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insights_STG Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 It would be very easy for me to defend myself off the claims that I am embarrassing myself, but every time I shut someone down on this site for talking out of their ass/making blanket statements, they just choose something completely new to attack me with without ever acknowledging anything I had previously said. Therefore, its pointless to continue with this.. At least you guys show solidarity and come to defend those who are incapable of defending themselves. -Goodbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Bye Felicia. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) Edited September 22, 2016 by akscott60 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creep0321 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I would ask for an example, but I start class tomorrow and don't want to waste my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharyouTree Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 notes on how to reply to a post in a way that is constructive/positive. I could blow you the f*ck up, right now. But I'll take the high road and let you off as being someone who just blindly defends someone who doesent deserve to be defended in this particular manner. 84 hours in flight log book. Thanks playa.Yes, Lindsey obviously is the least helpful person on this site. 🙄 She might seem a little more helpful if you weren't just trying to troll all the time. 84 whole hours? Great for you. I think we call that a "slow month" on a deployment. Can't wait to see your newest incarnation. Let's try to make it a little more entertaining this time, shall we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insights_STG Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Can't wait to see your newest incarnation. Let's try to make it a little more entertaining this time, shall we? Sure!! Let's start by buying you a f*cking dictionary!! Shall we?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insights_STG Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 84 whole hours? Great for you. I think we call that a "slow month" on a deployment. Okay.. Well lindsay only gets hours when flying to and from the ski slopes in the beautiful state of Washington.. She isn't taking fire or anything, so I'm not going to count any of those hours. That being said it is completely fair to strike all of my 84 hours from the record.. You're right.. I've got literally the EXACT same amount of experience as someone with 0 hours. Might as well have 0 hours... I agree. Private Pilot License is something you can just print out on the internet and the FAA recognizes it and everything.. 84 hours, PPL.. /scoff.. Clearly 100% worthless. I'm happy all that was settled. Now about this dictionary.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharyouTree Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Sure!! Let's start by buying you a f*cking dictionary!! Shall we?? This should be good... what do I need a dictionary for? Okay.. Well lindsay only gets hours when flying to and from the ski slopes in the beautiful state of Washington.. She isn't taking fire or anything, so I'm not going to count any of those hours. That being said it is completely fair to strike all of my 84 hours from the record.. You're right.. I've got literally the EXACT same amount of experience as someone with 0 hours. Might as well have 0 hours... I agree. Private Pilot License is something you can just print out on the internet and the FAA recognizes it and everything.. 84 hours, PPL.. /scoff.. Clearly 100% worthless. Well... Lindsey flies for the Army. So, I mean... she's technically got minimum hours per month/semi-annual period she has to maintain. Blackhawks don't generally fly to ski slopes, unless they're doing a rescue, but that's beside the point. I guess if she's flying her little Robby on the side, up to ski slopes, that's her business. My comment on your hours wasn't directed at how you got them, but that you're touting 84 like it's some number that should cause (who was that... AK?) to suddenly recognize your experience, and be awestruck. When in fact, 84 hours is nothing, and can be gotten in less than a month, particularly on a deployment. Hey, maybe some people are impressed by 84 hours, I won't judge... I just think you chose the wrong audience for that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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