fatbretcantjump Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Rumor has it there will be exactly 3 more 58 classes yet to begin at Rucker. Then it's finished. Part of me still wants to select Kiowas if there is a slot available in 3 weeks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Easy for you to say your speechless... This is going to hurt everyone at some point in their career. My whole guard battalion is facing elimination. Got a LTC brief today at drill who is not only our batt co but also the SAO... I might be changing to 60s as my selection to avoid this whole headache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftxag76 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Word at mother Rucker is SECDEF has signed off on the 58/72/64/67 deal and plans to incorp it into the FY15 budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Lakotas to replace 67s. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftxag76 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Here some supporting docs. "Posted on InsideDefense.com: January 10, 2014 Air Army. Big news, just posted: Defense Secretary Gives Go-Ahead To Army's Planned Aviation Restructure Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel has approved an Army plan to restructure its aviation forces that includes divesting all OH-58 Kiowa Warrior helicopters and taking all AH-64 Apache helicopters out of the National Guard to fill the active component's armed aerial scout mission requirement, according to a defense official. The official said the defense secretary has adopted the Army's plan in the form it was briefed on Capitol Hill, to key industry players and to Inside the Army last month. The approval of the aviation restructure was driven by internal Pentagon guidance given to the Army earlier this week. A resource management decision that will further detail the implementation of the plan, which will inform the fiscal year 2015 budget request, has yet to be distributed. Orders from the Army staff to move the plan forward are expected in March or April, the official added. Another defense official confirmed the plan has leadership support, but noted the budget is only considered final when the President releases it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndGen Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Sucktittude...... So lame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I3uller Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Seriously though, this sucks. For us 58 hopefuls and for the guys on the ground. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatbretcantjump Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Just got back from a pre-selection brief from the battalion SMO. They have upped the 58 class size from 6 to 8, so there are slots to be had.. if you're lucky enough to be selecting in the next few weeks. The final class begins on 14 April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Lucky enough? For what? Are the guys going right into the Apache AQT after graduation? Or are they going to be one of a few hundred unemployed Kiowa drivers trying to get a transition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatbretcantjump Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 That's the million dollar question. I wish I knew... it would make the decision a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d10 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 It's not really a question at this point. Anyone choosing to go Kiowas right now is making a terrible career decision. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftxag76 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Army Mulls Cut Of Three Aviation Brigades As Worst-Case Scenario Under Restructure The Army is looking at a worst-case scenario of three fewer combat aviation brigades as it restructures its aviation branch, according to the service's Aviation Center of Excellence Commander at Ft. Rucker, AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Stop building a CAB at Carson. Move the 159 from Campbell to Carson. There. One is taken care of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1237051 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 God I hope TERA is still a thing in 5 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Aside from 58s, anyone else think I should choose 60s now instead of 64s like I want being that I'm guard? What are the chances you think of us loosing apaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I3uller Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Well just from reading the article it doesn't look good for guard and the 64's. 60's seem like a relatively good choice simply due to how many of them there are and I don't think it's very likely the Army can get rid of them anytime soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 x 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftxag76 Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 just adding fuel too the fire... http://www.abc27.com/story/24438313/pa-guard-fights-army-over-apache-helicopters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 just adding fuel too the fire... http://www.abc27.com/story/24438313/pa-guard-fights-army-over-apache-helicoptersAll that shows is my point that the Guard will fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Ah but it does say Arizona is a acquiring more lakotas... Probably going to WAATS with the other 5 we already have down here. It mentioned that PA is the third largest apache fleet in the guard... Anyone know number two or one by chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Texas and California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperGumby Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I think the article meant 3rd largest NG unit as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hopefully us new 58 guys get a transition to a different aircraft. Has there been any word on how this plan will be executed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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