TH-67 Memorization Items

[akscott60]

He was tall and skinny with glasses, from what I remember. It has been a while. I have no idea what he used to fly.

[Velocity173]

He was tall and skinny with glasses, from what I remember. It has been a while. I have no idea what he used to fly.

Ok, different guy then.

[SBuzzkill]

Yeah I was Ranger Flight too and Mr. Heath was a tall guy. I remember that I liked him a lot and felt bad for the other flights who were constantly in the tech library with mandatory study time.

[2ndGen]

Uh sure. Ch 5 and CH 9

 

Its where you get them from. Although, if I remember right, that TH67 didnt have a -10 since its a civilian aircraft.

 

Our BOLC cadre made it sound like our IPs were going to want chapter, section, paragraph, etc. to reference when orally quizzing us on limits and EPs.

[Joe_P148]

Do they even do solos anymore?

[brackac]

Spike knock!

[akscott60]

Do they even do solos anymore?

No.

[urs151]

Solos are back in Primary as of a few months ago (just one solo flight requirement). The cross country flight was taken out.

[akscott60]

Oh nice. That is a pleasent change.

[urs151]

Agreed!! The much needed confidence level goes up after that solo flight. The cross country flight didn't do that.

[2ndGen]

What I've heard is that its not really a solo, you have your stick buddy with you.

[urs151]

That's correct. It's not an actual solo flight by the FAA definition. Their stick buddy flies left seat with no IP on board. It's a short flight involving 3 traffic patterns with the IP watching along the sidelines

The Army is labeling it a "supervised solo" flight

[2ndGen]

lol

[akscott60]

Only the Army calls flying with another person a "solo".

 

Strangely, the FAA has a different definition.

[Bootcamp]

Slightly off topic, but I figured I'd just string it on this thread...

 

From my Google searches, it appears that the Bell B206 JetRanger has symmetrical airfoils for the main rotor blades, however in class on Friday we learned that the TH-67 Creek has asymmetrical airfoils. Are both of these statements correct? If so, what about the OH-58?

[Yamer]

can someone with more coffee on-board explain this to me...

 

"The tail rotor gear box provides a 90 degree change of direction which also provides a further SPEED REDUCTION to 2,560RPM."

 

from the TH-67 -10

 

why is it a speed reduction or am I missing something??? doesn't the tail rotor spin faster RPM than the main rotor?

 

oh wait... its a speed reduction from the shaft speed down to 2560rpm, which is still faster than the MR head RPM, right?

[Rob1237051]

Yes. The tail rotor spins about 6.5 times for every revolution of the main rotor, which is still slower than the initial output from the engine. Why are you reading that instead of the WOCSOP?

[Yamer]

Thank you, i have read the woc sop twice now, need some excitement in my brain for a little motivation to start the third time

[Rob1237051]

Lol fair enough.

[akscott60]

I was so not caring at all about 67 5&9s until the day after SERE when they told us when we were starting flight line. If I remember right, I had about 12 days or so to memorize them.

[Talon64]

So memorize wocs sop before Flight stuff?

[UH60L-IP]

So memorize wocs sop before Flight stuff?

 

 

 

Yes. And I don't think I would spend a heck of a lot of time memorizing the WOCS SOP either. Review it. Be familiar with it. Memorize it for a 4-6 week course? Uh, no.

 

I would never be one to advocate not studying. Far from it. But if you are not yet to WOCS you are so far from the flight line that you probably have better things to do than study 5 & 9s, like watching TV.

 

For those of you that just have to study aviation related material prior to WOCS, or anytime prior to the point that you need to be studying it, read up on weather, air traffic control, aerodynamics, that kind of stuff. Those are the things that will apply throughout your aviation career and you will never want to forget. You will want to forget your TH-67 5&9s the day after you leave the TH-67. Study the stuff you will never want to forget, which by the way you also have to know for flight school.

[brackac]

So memorize wocs sop before Flight stuff?

Review the SOP. Be familiar with the SOP. Never memorize the SOP. WOCS is either 4 or 6 weeks of your military career, while being a helicopter pilot is your military career.

[Talon64]

Wow. Very sound advice. Thank you guys. I know I speak for a lot of other candidates when i say that I'm extremely grateful for all the advice you veterans of the process put out and share. Thank you for your time and input.

[Optamix]

The only think you need to know about the WOC SOP is how to find stuff in it, I didn't memorize anything out of it. Hell, I'm pretty sure I only really /used/ it to set up my locker and room.

 

5&9s on the other hand you need to know word for word. I spend a good chunk of each day at home working on them during the week.

 

I didn't start really learning them until right after SERE, each day you are assigned 5-7 of them during Primary and you are responsible for knowing them during the oral knowledge part of the flight brief. You don't want the Flight Commander to know you as the guy that always misses them.