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#41 Luofynerd

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 22:42

Luofynerd,
 
Run more 400s and 800s. 3 mile runs won't really have much of an impact on your 2 mile time. Of course running doesn't hurt, but I promise you more high intensity intervals will drastically improve your run time. Example -- Monday - 6 x 400m, run 1 walk 1. Keep them under 1:20. Tuesday rest, Wednesday 4 x 800m. Run 2 laps, walk 1. Keep them under 3 minutes. Thursday rest - Friday hit up your 3 mile. I used a plan like this when I was training for Ranger School and took my run time from 14:30 to 13:15 in about 4 weeks. Good luck!
 
BTW -- It's harder than it looks, just push lol.

Thanks I'll give it a try. I did however blow my knee out about a year ago. I managed to milk it for quite a while without a profile as to not disrupt my flight physical. Thankfully some light leg exercises while deployed managed to strengthen it back up. My run time went from 12:50 to 15:30 during that time. So I have a bit of an excuse to why my run is so horrible right now. I have the drive to get there! I figure I'll be at least able to get 80-90% on it by the updates deadline. Don't want to be NC-NS again.
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Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:07

First time applying as a civilian so we'll see how it goes!

Age: 27
ASVAB/GT: 94/127
SIFT: 56
APFT: 273
Edu: Assoc of science in Nursing; Bach of Science in nursing 3.3 GPA
Military: none
LOR: 1) CW5 AD aviator army 2) O5 RTD Navy pilot 3) O5 RTD Army pilot 4) O2 AD Army pilot 5) O3 AD Army 6) O3 RTD ARMY
Flight physical: stamped with no waivers
Flight hours: 60 hours fixed-wing

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:25

First time applying as a civilian so we'll see how it goes!

Age: 27
ASVAB/GT: 94/127
SIFT: 56
APFT: 273
Edu: Assoc of science in Nursing; Bach of Science in nursing 3.3 GPA
Military: none
LOR: 1) CW5 AD aviator army 2) O5 RTD Navy pilot 3) O5 RTD Army pilot 4) O2 AD Army pilot 5) O3 AD Army 6) O3 RTD ARMY
Flight physical: stamped with no waivers
Flight hours: 60 hours fixed-wing


As stated, multiple times throughout this forum, you have to many LORs.

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 13:12

Question on LORs, and this may be a bit different Guard side anyway (I'm aksing this same Q to some of the guys in the Guard unit to which I'm applying, but thought it may be of help to others here). When looking at LOR's, does the board give more weight to someone given their involvement in the Army, or proximity to the applicant? For example, one of my letters is from an USMC O4 aviator I know for reasons other than just tracking them down for an LOR (classmate), and another is from a CW2, again that I actually know outside of asking them for a letter. I imagine as someone reviewing LORs, that would potentially carry more weight than a CW5 who has no real ongoing relationship with the applicant. Just curious for purposes of selecting which LORs they want to use, should it be 3 random higher ranking army pilots who agreed to write them letters, or maybe one of the former with some lower ranking or sister service pilots who the person has an ongoing relationship with.

 

Thanks for any input

 

Mike

 



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:53

creep0321 thank you for pointing that out. I went back and read some of the forums on LORs and will heed that advice. I've heard from some people that the officers reviewing your packet want to see that you took advantage of the 6 LOR limit but it sounds like that's not true.
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Posted 16 July 2017 - 10:15

@Cubicle, Quality over quantity. As you probably saw in other threads, the WOs reviewing the packets have minimal amounts of time to read through each packet. With too many LORs they may not pick the best of the LORs to read. If they are all super strong then go ahead! I ended up using 4 in my packet.

@Mike, I would recommend trying to balance both. The LORs help the board know you as a person, determine if you are WO material, why they should trust you with a multi-million dollar piece of equipment, and what credentials does the person writing have to help determine that. So for my packet I ended up having LORs fron the president of my smaller christian college that I studied at and worked for the past 5 years, my boss who I have also worked under for the past 3 years, a retired CW3 who has known me for about 5 years, and an Active CW5 who I met for the LOR. Overall each LOR was strong and provided either a good look at my character from someone who knew me or a respected view as to why I would make a good aviator, and one had both. If you have too many military interview letters they wont be able to get as good a grasp of your character. On the flip side if you have none, the civilian letters may not highlight some characteristics the Army is looking for. To help counter that I did give the civilians who I asked a few pointers on which characteristics the Army wanted to know more about to help direct the LOR. Hope that helps! This is also mainly just the train of thought I had as I was deciding what LORs to keep in my packet and who to get one from as I applied as a civilian.

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 11:17

I imagine my most important LOR is from my former Platoon Commander. The guidelines are a little different for the National Guard board so I need to figure out exactly what I need -- they are directed at enlisted and commissioned soldiers applying internally. They are allowing me to apply as a "civilian," but obviously I have no current commanding officer, etc. I've been out of the USMC for 3 years. 

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 12:34

Submitting today. Whew cut it so close for the deadline was waiting on the CSMs signature for quite a while(block leave, bad timing).

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 13:40

Not sure that this is the appropriate place as I'm applying Guard, but I'm targeting the September board for my packet.

Age: 27
GT: 137 (correction for Army)
SIFT: 75
APFT: Haven't formally run one yet est. 250-280
Military: 6+ years USMC Reserves infantry, OEF
Flight hours: 1.7 (probably not worth mentioning)
Physical: In the process
Civilian education: BS Biology 3.2 GPA, 2/3s of the way through my J.D. 3.25 GPA
LORs: O-3(former Plt Commander), O-4 (USMC Pilot/ Law School classmate)
 
Mike

 


Hey Mike,
I'm pretty sure that the guard does their boards on the months that AD doesn't. So that would mean that your boards meets in August and October. I know this because my buddy is in the guard and just got selected by the board in June to fly UH-60s.

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 14:13

It was supposed to be August 20th, but they bumped it to September, which works for me since it's been a long process getting it all taken care of. I'm crossing my fingers I have no issue with the flight physical, it just went to Rucker today. All my lab work, EKG, eyes, etc are good... just concerned over a history of a back strain from when I was in the USMC, and a subsequent VA rating. I'm a bit worried about that getting kicked back and needing a waiver given the date approaching, and the fact that they only hold 2 boards a year, but the units flight PA told me he'd be surprised if I needed a waiver.

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 21:45

First time submitting, graduated HS in May
 
Age: 18
ASVAB/GT: 94/127
SIFT: 58
APFT: 300
Physical: Finished part 2 today, no problems
Edu: 3.5 GPA in High School
LORs: CW3 (Ret.), SF CSM (family friend), CW4 (Reserves), 47 Crew Chief(VP of neighboring HS)
Also have a very personal LOR from a higher up police officer who was a former marine, but I think 4 LORs are fine.
 
I`m a little concerned over my GPA, was a little more focused on running than grades at the time.
No waivers, no notable flight time. 
 
Anyone hear of any High School to Flight School guys getting in recently?
 
Thank you
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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:16


First time submitting, graduated HS in May
 
Age: 18
ASVAB/GT: 94/127
SIFT: 58
APFT: 300
Physical: Finished part 2 today, no problems
Edu: 3.5 GPA in High School
LORs: CW3 (Ret.), SF CSM (family friend), CW4 (Reserves), 47 Crew Chief(VP of neighboring HS)
Also have a very personal LOR from a higher up police officer who was a former marine, but I think 4 LORs are fine.
 
I`m a little concerned over my GPA, was a little more focused on running than grades at the time.
No waivers, no notable flight time. 
 
Anyone hear of any High School to Flight School guys getting in recently?
 
Thank you
Cody


First off, you have some pretty good stats for someone coming straight out of high school. As far as recent selectees getting into WOFT straight from high I'm not entirely sure, there is bound to be somebody on here though. But there are TONS of street to seat people on here who may have better insight. Stay motivated! Best of luck

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 13:42


First time submitting, graduated HS in May
 
Age: 18
ASVAB/GT: 94/127
SIFT: 58
APFT: 300
Physical: Finished part 2 today, no problems
Edu: 3.5 GPA in High School
LORs: CW3 (Ret.), SF CSM (family friend), CW4 (Reserves), 47 Crew Chief(VP of neighboring HS)
Also have a very personal LOR from a higher up police officer who was a former marine, but I think 4 LORs are fine.
 
I`m a little concerned over my GPA, was a little more focused on running than grades at the time.
No waivers, no notable flight time. 
 
Anyone hear of any High School to Flight School guys getting in recently?
 
Thank you
Cody


My stick buddy in the 47 course was a HS to flight school guy. Great guy. Not sure how often it happens, but also not sure how many HS kids actually get a decent looking packet together, which yours appears to be. Good luck.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 14:03

I wouldn't worry about a 3.5 high school gpa. The rest of your packet looks good I'm sure with your stats.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 14:12

I guess it's all about the competition, but I had a 3.0 out of highschool and am doing just fine in a great law school... I think that's a solid GPA.

 

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 19:25

Thank you for the encouragement about the GPA.

 

I`ve been following the write ups and forum posts for about a year now so its nice to hear the packet looks good. Thanks for all the resources you guys have up here, its helped a lot.


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Posted 18 July 2017 - 22:28

Yup yup. Now the grueling 70+ days of anxiety.

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 11:24

First time submitting:

 

Age: 22
GT: 110
SIFT: 58
APFT: 258
Military: 3 years Army Reserve, Specialist
Flight hours: 220, have my PPL CPL, and am currently working on my CFI all part 141 ASES
Physical: In the process (actually struggling to schedule one as a reservist, but I guess the moderators did not let me post asking about that. I couldn't ind anything on the site about it so if anyone could send me the link to it that would be appreciated)
Civilian education: Bachelor of Science in Aeronautics 3.2 GPA
LORs: O-5(friend of family), CW5 from USARC,Current Company Commander

 

I'm fairly worried I wont be able to accomplish my flight physical in time. I have tried every place in central Fl from JAX, to Patrick and even Fort Bragg and Fort Dix. As of right now I'm in for August 11 at MacDill for part one but I don't think that will give me enough time to submit. Any tips? Thanks!



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Posted 20 July 2017 - 01:52

Luofynerd,
 
Run more 400s and 800s. 3 mile runs won't really have much of an impact on your 2 mile time. Of course running doesn't hurt, but I promise you more high intensity intervals will drastically improve your run time. Example -- Monday - 6 x 400m, run 1 walk 1. Keep them under 1:20. Tuesday rest, Wednesday 4 x 800m. Run 2 laps, walk 1. Keep them under 3 minutes. Thursday rest - Friday hit up your 3 mile. I used a plan like this when I was training for Ranger School and took my run time from 14:30 to 13:15 in about 4 weeks. Good luck!
 
BTW -- It's harder than it looks, just push lol.

Took a practice pt test today and ran a 12:56. Too bad it wasn't for record. Would've been a 300. Actual pt test is scheduled for 4 August so I'll keep on keepin on. Hopefully I'm feeling it on the 4th. My luck is I'll get a 260 when it comes down to the actual test.
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Posted 20 July 2017 - 06:51

Great job man! Got me beat lol, insane improvement based on the amount of time that took you to drop your run so much. I max my PU and SU everytime but my run is stuck in the 13:15 - 13:30 range




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