StockTrader Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 I will tell you that the answer is no. I know because it just happened to me 2 days ago. My recruiter sent me up to MEPS on Sunday night to take the physical and SIFT on Moday (SIFT is only given on Mondays at 0800 at the New Orleans MEPS.) Upon arriving I was told by my liaison that I would not be able to do both as they occur at the same time, and to pick one. I chose the SIFT, and was done by 1030. I then spent the REST of the day (1030 to 1700) sitting around (I really think it is BS that they couldn't get me into medical then.) I was then held over and sent back to the hotel to come back to following morning to do my physical. Where I was done for 1100 and had to sit around yet again all day. Please take heed my advice and drive yourself to MEPS! Good lord. They are making me stay in a hotel sunday night even though i live 4 miles away from MEPS. The SIFT is given on Mondays here at 1100. I just thought maybe, just mayyyyybe when people are doin the ASVAB they could hook me up with the SIFT. Guess not . Quote
wrigley13 Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 If it's truely what you want don't let your eyesight stop you. This is the only reason I had LASIK. Your stats look good but you never know till your packet gets boarded. 1 Quote
flashgordon Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 thanks i got quoted for lasik for 3100 for everything post and pre op for both eyes. But now i need to see what the research says for applying with lasik. Do i need a waiver or do i go to meps again? is its 6 months from day of surgery. Does it hurt my chances? Quote
StockTrader Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 Just spoke with my recruiter. She says they ok'd me taking the SIFT on monday along with my MEPS physical. Hopefully it will actually happen. Quote
wrigley13 Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 According to Lindsey's guide your flight physical could be scheduled three months after but MEPS usually requires six months which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. It wont hurt your chances at all and you will not require any waivers as long as the procedure goes as planned. Mine cost 3500 and hasn't caused me any trouble other than gathering the records from the doctor and a couple other minor tests during your flight physical. Quote
Jon B. Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 My LASEK was completely covered my the Army! Minus that whole enlistment thing I suppose. Absolutely get your eyes done if you can swing it. That was my major hurdle for being able to submit my packet. Best of luck. Quote
flashgordon Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 thanks and i have an appointment to make sure i can have it done. So I have been to meps and all i have left is my flight physical. 3 months would be great as apposed to the 6 months, 6 is depressing if thats what it is. My recruiter does not know jack sh*t unfortunately they are a bad first impression of the armed forces. Do you have a site that explains more about it? Quote
Gone Huntin' Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 New to the forums here and hope to be board ready by May. Completed meps physical but still need to do apft, flight physical and board interview. Here are my stats: CivillianAGE: 24ASVAB AFQT/GT: 80/120SIFT: 53APFT: NoneEDUCATION: BS business admin 2.5 gpaFLIGHT: NoneBOARD: NoneLORS: ret. LTG, ret. CW4 Aviator, ret. LTC, and current boss. OTHER INFO: background in competitive cycling and team sports. Quote
Jon B. Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 thanks and i have an appointment to make sure i can have it done. So I have been to meps and all i have left is my flight physical. 3 months would be great as apposed to the 6 months, 6 is depressing if thats what it is. My recruiter does not know jack sh*t unfortunately they are a bad first impression of the armed forces. Do you have a site that explains more about it? I don't unfortunately. I'm AD, and had it done after my first deployment. All I had to do was go to Womack at Bragg and get the ball rolling. Some of the other soon to be Army guys may be better help. Quote
wrigley13 Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 I just took my flight physical a couple months ago, feel free to message me if you have questions. Quote
d10 Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 flashgordon, it's 6 months. There's a process you can begin after 3 months, but the full physical won't be good until 6 months have passed. It's referenced in AR 40-501 2-12c(2), any eye surgery will disqualify you from Army service in general if any of the following is true: (a) Pre-surgical refractive error in either eye exceeds + 8.00 to - 8.00 diopters. (b ) At least 6 months recovery period has not occurred between last refractive surgery or augmenting procedure and accession medical examination. (c ) There have been complications, and/or medications or ophthalmic solutions are required. (d) Post-surgical refraction in each eye is not stable as demonstrated by 1. At least two separate refractions at least one month apart, the most recent of which demonstrates more than +/- 0.50 diopters difference for spherical vision and/or more than +/- 0.25 diopters for cylinder vision; and 2. At least 3 months recovery has not occurred between the last refractive surgery or augmenting procedure and one of the comparison refractions. (e) Pre-surgical and post-surgical refractive error does not meet the standards for the military Service to which the candidate is applying. Quote
rharris Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Long time lurker. Will be boarded at the May 2013 AD board. AGE: 31GT: 118SIFT: Test tomorrow. (Fingers Crossed)APFT: 265EDUCATION: Working towards associates deg.FLIGHT: NoneLORS: Company, Battalion CDR, CW5 Chief of Aviation Branch.OTHER INFO: SLC Graduate. Working in a 40 level position as a 30. Best of luck to all of you. Ryan Passed the SIFT Test with a 65. Good luck to everyone in May! Quote
Ardo09203 Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Passed the SIFT Test with a 65. Good luck to everyone in May! Excellent! Good job! 1 Quote
Jon B. Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Passed the SIFT Test with a 65. Good luck to everyone in May!Good score! Ditto on the well wishing for May. It doesn't seem like there are many on here for that board. 1 Quote
flashgordon Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 So after lasek is it 6 months for examination for my flight physical what can i start at 3 months? All i have left is this stupid flight physical haha. Quote
d10 Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 The checks to make sure your vision has stabilized after surgery can be started after 3 months. It's in the reference I posted above. Quote
SBuzzkill Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Hey everyone i have been lurking for awhile and slowly building my packet so that its most competitive. I have done everything except the flight physical My stats AGE: 23SEX: male128 college credits and a bs degree in biologyGPA 3.0 (worked all of college and taught labs)Fitness was a 300/300 actually a 333/300 on the extended scaleAsvab: 87GT 120SIFT 53Clean record and bill of health never been to the hospital! I was waited 6 weeks for my flight physical which was the last step so i could submit in march. Then they finally called my recruiter and said that my noncorrected eye site was too poor even though my corrected was 20/20. I have 20/60 in both eyes. So they said i cant take it and there is no way to get a waiver for it and get around it. They said that i can have lasek or pkr then wait 6 months then try. Is this legit or bull sh*t? They also said i could enlist then work my way up to a WO but the eye site requirement wills till apply even when enlisted right? My recruiter did not know much about WOFt to begin with so i basically have done this all on my own. With the help of my cousins husband who is a CW5 and he is a helicopter pilot instructor. thanks in advance! That's kind of bullshit. I say kind of because from what I hear it's hit or miss with Rucker and whether or not they'll waive it. When I did my initial flight physical I was 20/70 and they approved me. Did the physical get sent to Rucker and then denied? Edit: I just read that your physical hasn't even been done yet. There is no way to know whether or not they will waive you unless you go and get your physical done. The flight surgeon who did mine was the one who told me Rucker was hit or miss with the requirements. Sometimes they'll bend a bit, sometimes they wont. Edited February 27, 2014 by SBuzzkill Quote
Jon B. Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 Just an FYI here. The flight surgeon that did my physical told me that with the current state of the military and drawbacks etc, they are looking for ANY excuse not to approve physicals. This mindset could also be applied to getting in the Army as well I imagine, but I'm no recruiter. Obviously waivers, unless told specifically otherwise, should still be attempted. But I wouldn't hope to much on anything getting waived. Quote
flashgordon Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 ya they wouldnt even let me take the flgiht phys bc my eye sight was apparently not good enough uncorrected. But it corrects to 20/20 so i didnt understand why that mattered, so im getting lasik and then waiting the 6 months to take it again because i already did everything else. I just dont know what i have to fill out or do after the procedure and is it a medical waiver if u have it or they just need to make sure u did it? Quote
Jon B. Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 With my surgery I had specific appointments for a year to make to ensure I was healing properly and everything was gtg. There is specific paperwork Rucker requires for applicants that have had the surgery. Whoever is doing your physical should know about the specific requirements. Quote
SBuzzkill Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Your eyes need to be 20/50 correctable to 20/20 for distant vision. 20/20 uncorrected for near vision. But like I said before the final decision is made at Fort Rucker when they receive your medical packet. Who is not letting you take the physical? Edited February 28, 2014 by SBuzzkill Quote
flashgordon Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 The base in seattle washington that it would be scheduled at, they said that my eye sight doesnt qualify me as a civillian to go forward with my warrant officer packet because i dont meet that standard. So do i do my check ups with meps or the army or with my eye doctor after lasik and show them the records? Quote
pilothooks Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 Passed the SIFT Test with a 65. Good luck to everyone in May!Good job bro. 1 Quote
Jon B. Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 The base in seattle washington that it would be scheduled at, they said that my eye sight doesnt qualify me as a civillian to go forward with my warrant officer packet because i dont meet that standard. So do i do my check ups with meps or the army or with my eye doctor after lasik and show them the records? I'm assuming that's at Lewis? Anyway, I would think that all of your follow-ups will be with whomever gives you your new eyes. Then try the physical again once the correct amount of time has passed. Quote
SBuzzkill Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 Yeah Lewis is the one doing flight physicals for the Seattle area. Quote
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