Lindsey Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Surprised the 64's went before the C-12.I'm surprised the C-12 went before the 47. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Surprised the 64's went before the C-12.Clearly you don't know how awesome the 64 is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Actually, I am not surprised about that selection at all. What a wild card. I would have thrown my hands up in the air at that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelus Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I'm really surprised the C-12 went before the hook. Like... Somebody got "stuck" with a 47... wtf. I know everyone has their preference and all, but that doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRyanSD Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I know I'm far far down the road from any of this, but why does it seem like all the 2LTs get a huge chunk of Apaches, and WO1s only get 1 or 2, if any at all during selection? Is that pretty common, or is that some trend as of late? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I know I'm far far down the road from any of this, but why does it seem like all the 2LTs get a huge chunk of Apaches, and WO1s only get 1 or 2, if any at all during selection? Is that pretty common, or is that some trend as of late? That's just the way the last two selections have been. It varies so wildly selection to selection there literally is no point in trying to guess what the next one will be like or figure out a pattern. Not long ago warrants were 95% hawk and 5% Apache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradewinds Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I know I'm far far down the road from any of this, but why does it seem like all the 2LTs get a huge chunk of Apaches, and WO1s only get 1 or 2, if any at all during selection? Is that pretty common, or is that some trend as of late? Â The numbers will vary depending on the breakdown of Active and NG as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockTrader Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Â The numbers will vary depending on the breakdown of Active and NG as well. And it looks like it is NG heavy right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsey Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Yeah the amount of NG in the class today was staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Army CWO and RLO arent he same. The Army has different needs for WO1s as pilots, and 1LTs as Platoon Leaders. At rucker it seems you are the same.That ends the second you step foot at your first unit.So just ignore what the "other" side gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shainbourassa Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Clearly you don't know how awesome the 64 is...Haha. Did you start the 64 course yet? Is your state going to re-slot you down here? We have two guard guys in my class who still have high hopes of going through the 64 course. We keep telling them to think again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joepatriot Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Looks like my buddy took a c-12 in the last selection. He's excited... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Haha. Did you start the 64 course yet? Is your state going to re-slot you down here? We have two guard guys in my class who still have high hopes of going through the 64 course. We keep telling them to think again.I start next week, we aren't loosing ours until they force them from us which won't happen until congress makes a final decision in summer of 2016, and then relocation time after that (army moves slow). If they are from Arizona, their hopes can stay high. As for other states, couldn't tell ya. North Carolina and Texas all have them still too I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 And, if and when I get transitioned, it'll probably be at home at WAATS, which is next door to my unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBuzzkill Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I would have snagged the C-12 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradewinds Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 and then relocation time after that (army moves slow). They sure aren't moving slow in getting rid of the 58, at least in terms of an Army time frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamer Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Meh, only time will tell I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharyouTree Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 The C-12 guy will go through the A/L course, then FW transition and "never fly helicopters in the Army again." Typical wasteful Army. I've never understood the "Class of all Apache" followed by "Class of all Blackhawk" mentality. Are they really saying they had no idea of the forecast? I understand needs of the Army kind of thing, but I think they'd be better served with "happy pilots" if more pilots at least got what they wanted. With classes of all one or the other, there's a lot of people "getting screwed" on both sides. Ah, well. Such is life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyfoot Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015  Typical wasteful Army. I've never understood the "Class of all Apache" followed by "Class of all Blackhawk" mentality. Are they really saying they had no idea of the forecast? I understand needs of the Army kind of thing, but I think they'd be better served with "happy pilots" if more pilots at least got what they wanted. With classes of all one or the other, there's a lot of people "getting screwed" on both sides. Ah, well. Such is life.Completely agree. They give me an Apache and I'll give them 30 years if they'll let me. They give me anything else, and I'll be out the door as soon as I'm commercially viable. It's bad business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UH60L-IP Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Completely agree. They give me an Apache and I'll give them 30 years if they'll let me. They give me anything else, and I'll be out the door as soon as I'm commercially viable. It's bad business. Not really. The Army needs career pilots and they need one term pilots. You are a number and nobody really cares if you are happy or not. You have to find a way to make yourself happy in your career and control what you can, not worrying about what you can't.  Not trying to be a cynic. That's just the reality. They are given the numbers to fill, they fill them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akscott60 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Career pilots? Stop making CW3 a 50/50 proposition and more people will be positive about their career outlook. Up or out is stupid for pilots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_P148 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Surprised the 64's went before the C-12.Nah not everybody wants fixed wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shainbourassa Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Nah not everybody wants fixed wing.Yeah I know, just when we were told about the new FW program that is supposed to be starting everybody was damn near drooling on themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TachedOutOffRoad Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Completely agree. They give me an Apache and I'll give them 30 years if they'll let me. They give me anything else, and I'll be out the door as soon as I'm commercially viable. It's bad business.   That's an ignorant statement.Are you a 30 year 64 pilot? or you a four year 60 pilot who HATES your life?You wouldn't be happy flying a DAP or AH-6s for 160th? Flying eight ship, NVG, air assaults, even in a lowly airframe where I don't have a trigger is fukn awesome every time I do it. Every time. Come on, there is no bad airframe. C12 sounds terribly boring to me now, but in 10 years? who knows.10 years ago, I would have bet you that I'd cut off my manhood before I'd leave the Marines for the Army, but now, I wish I had left sooner. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brackac Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 I would have snagged the C-12 too.It's not what everyone makes it out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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